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E-mails From Marie Grant Chief Nurse & Ian Harris Finance Directorate

From:        Ian Harris

Sent:        15 July 2002 16:18

To:        Marie Grant

Cc:        Kevin Harbottle; Ian Hamilton; Ian Perkin

Subject:        RE: Variable Tariff

Marie,

 

Thank you very much for your comments and queries.

 

The bulk of the variable tariffs are made up of  Drugs, Medical and Surgical Supplies and Equipment, Provisions, Appliances, Blood and Blood products.

 

Since the publication of the first draft, the Projects Team has continued to examine areas on inconsistency. This investigation revealed that some of the inpatient variable tariffs (especially geriatrics but including cardiology and orthopaedics) were understated. This has now been corrected.

 

With regard to your general comments:

 

the cost differences on the various critical care areas arises mainly due to differences in the costs directly attributable to those areas however following on from your comment I am currently investigating the variable tariff for Neuro intensive care which is clearly very different to General and Cardiac ITUs.

 

it would be helpful if you could elaborate further on orthopaedics in order to concentrate our efforts on those elements which are of particular concern to you.

 

OP costs were incorrect in terms of the relative costs within each specialty. This has been addressed in the work that we have been doing post publication of the first draft. In general though, outpatient variable costs will always be quite low due the fact that out patient clinics are labour intensive rather than materials intensive.

 

Cardiac non elective work is generally cheaper, in variable cost terms than cardiac elective work. This is because patients in this category consume few catheter lab and pacing clinic consumables than elective cardiac patients. Generally, non elective cardiology work is more expensive in full cost terms because of longer lengths of stay and thus greater recovery of fixed and semi fixed costs.

 

I can confirm (having investigated following your query) that the variable tariff for CCU is incorrect. This is because the drugs cost for CCU had not been charged to CCU. This has been corrected and the variable cost will be calculated as approximately £30 per day.

 

Regards

 

Ian

-----Original Message-----

From:        Marie Grant

Sent:        12 July 2002 18:19

To:        Ian Harris

Cc:        Kevin Harbottle; Ian Hamilton

Subject:        Variable Tariff

 

Ian

.I'm not sure whether I fully understand the above. If I'm reading them right I can now understand why our financial position is what it is as we are not getting the income for delivering the complex case mix that we perform. The variable cost in my view are far to low.

What happens when we over perform to deliver targets do we not incur costs over and above consumables?

 

A couple of general comments

Why is there such a variation in the cost for the different ICU?

Orthopaedics looks incorrect

O/p costs look incorrect

Cardiac Non elective seems cheaper that the elective why?

CCU  must be incorrect  £11.42 average cost?

From a nursing perspective all of these look very low in cost in comparison to what in reality would be used.

 

Do we need to review from a clinical point of view as probably from a Finance point they are correct technically.

 

It just seems that we are selling ourselves down the river.

Hope these comments are of use

 

Marie

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